The ‘real’ Kayla Lemeiux responds as ‘nipple wars’ erupt in Z-cup scandal
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ONTARIO, CANADA: Kayla Lemieux, a 39-year-old intersex teacher at Oakville Trafalgar High School who was furloughed amid a contentious debate over her gigantic Z-cup prosthetic breasts on February 28, 2023, responded to a named Twitter user, Debbie L Kasman, analyst and researcher. Kasman wrote an open letter to Doug Downey, Attorney General of Ontario, regarding Lemieux on November 18, 2022, and recently shared the letter on March 4 after a reporter shared an update that Halton District School Board hires a special adviser after an uproar over teachers’ dress code. To which Lemieux, who has denied wearing prosthetics and identifies as a woman with her pronouns, responded by saying, “That was a really long read!”
In the letter, Kasman pointed out, “When a man – who is in the process of becoming a woman – comes to class with oversized prosthetic breasts with protruding nipples, it is an expression of his gender identity – and c is allowed – as is the case with Ms. Lemieux at the Halton District School Board in Oakville. When a non-transitioning woman talks about gender and race discrimination based on her job, as an expression of her gender identity, and while she is professionally dressed, the woman is publicly fired from the job.”
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“She should be able to express herself”
In September 2022, school officials said they would no longer respond to questions about the issue as it was a “staff issue”, as previously stated. HDSB President Margo Shuttleworth said protecting the “gender rights” of their employees is “the position taken by the school board and they support the teacher”. A senior student from Oakville Trafalgar High School said: “I’m okay with that. I know some of my friends are a little uncomfortable with it, but I think she should to be able to express herself as she wants.”
According to the New York Post, several parents petitioned the Halton District School Board to introduce a dress code for teachers, but “the board initially rejected it due to concerns about violations of the School’s Human Rights Code. ‘Ontario’. However, the board passed a motion on Jan. 3, 2023, directing the director of education to develop a policy to ensure “appropriate and professional standards of dress and decorum in the classroom,” Fox News reported. Following this, District Representative Heather Francey told a school meeting, according to the New York Post, “Although she is not currently on active assignment, the teacher remains employed by the (Halton District School Board).” The suspension came after photos of her wearing men’s clothing sparked a debate over the authenticity of the Z-cup prosthetic breasts. However, the “real” Lemieux denied the accusation of wearing fake breast forms and wrote, “No! That’s not me.”
No! It is not me.
— Kayla (her) (@Real_Kayla_L) March 5, 2023
However, user Kasman has now asked, “You’ve since explained that your boobs are real, meaning you don’t wear prosthetics. I admire your courage in bringing this up. It leaves the issue of nipples exposed. Would you be willing to talk about that?” To which, Lemieux replied, “I might talk about that in a future tweet.” Kasman then wrote: “The sooner the better, Ms. Lemieux. For everyone involved.
I might talk about that in a future tweet.
— Kayla (her) (@Real_Kayla_L) March 8, 2023
The sooner the better, Ms. Lemieux. For all concerned.
— Debbie L. Kasman (@DebbieKasman) March 8, 2023
“An extraordinarily unfair burden”
Lemieux then asked, “According to your letter, ‘Furthermore, your expression of gender identity imposes an extraordinarily unfair burden on your school board to protect you and all staff and students involved.’ I didn’t share my photos on social media or call the media. So who did that?” And to add: “Can you tell me which specific code of conduct you are referring to? I always strive to promote a safe, caring, fair and inclusive learning environment. I don’t think I understand the analogy with fire.” Kasman wrote, “Here is your board’s code of conduct,” sharing a link to the Halton District School Board’s code of conduct brochure, and added, “It’s based on the Human Rights Code of the ‘Ontario. Under the responsibility of the staff, there are 2 critical points: Provide a safe, caring, fair and inclusive learning environment, free from distractions. When you expose your nipples, the learning environment is not free from distractions.
According to your letter, “Furthermore, your expression of gender identity imposes an extraordinarily unfair burden on your school board to protect you and all affected staff and students.” I did not share my photos on social media or call the media. So who did this?
— Kayla (her) (@Real_Kayla_L) March 8, 2023
Here is your council’s code of conduct: https://t.co/hRtwHrB3w7
— Debbie L. Kasman (@DebbieKasman) March 9, 2023
It is based on the Ontario Human Rights Code. Under the responsibility of the staff, there are 2 critical points: Provide a safe, caring, fair and inclusive learning environment, free from distractions. When you expose your nipples, the learning environment is not free from distractions.
— Debbie L. Kasman (@DebbieKasman) March 9, 2023
Lemieux said: “Women should never be ashamed of themselves and don’t need anyone to apologize for their appearance, no matter how irritating it may be. Most of the photos taken from me circulating on the internet weren’t even caught while I was in school.” Kasman responded by saying, “That’s good. Did you keep your nipples covered at school? I ask because the code of conduct requires you to communicate and monitor the school dress code. How can you do that if you don’t follow the dress code? It’s a double standard, isn’t it?” Lemieux responded and said, “No, I’ve never done that. I always had an undergarment under my top at school.” Kasman then shared a photo of Lemieux written at school: “Are you saying this photo isn’t accurate? That your nipples weren’t visible at school?”
Fair enough. Did you keep your nipples covered at school? I ask because the code of conduct requires you to communicate and monitor the school dress code. How can you do that if you don’t follow the dress code? It’s a double standard, isn’t it?
— Debbie L. Kasman (@DebbieKasman) March 8, 2023
Are you saying this image is not accurate? That your nipples weren’t visible at school? pic.twitter.com/IYaE4bVkWr
— Debbie L. Kasman (@DebbieKasman) March 10, 2023
‘No visible nipples? What is the compromise?
She went on to write, “Your right to be yourself ends as soon as your students’ rights are taken away in return. The council’s obligation to support you also ends when it becomes extremely difficult to do so,” and added, “Sometimes accommodation is not possible because it costs too much or creates health risks. or security. This is called undue hardship. The council is authorized to stop supporting you, even if it may have a negative effect on you. “Therefore, you need to figure out how much you’re willing to give to stay a teacher. 1. No visible nipples? 2. Smaller breasts? What’s the trade-off?” Kasman pointed out.
Sometimes accommodation is not possible because it costs too much or creates health or safety risks. This is called undue hardship. The council is authorized to stop supporting you, even if it may have a negative effect on you.
— Debbie L. Kasman (@DebbieKasman) March 10, 2023
Therefore, you must determine how much you are willing to give to remain a teacher. 1. No visible nipples? 2. Smaller chest? What is the compromise?
— Debbie L. Kasman (@DebbieKasman) March 10, 2023
Lemieux then asked, “So correct me if I misunderstood you. That’s how I understood your tweet. You say that in order for me to continue teaching, I need to either 1. Cover the bumps in my nipples Or 2. Make my breasts smaller Would one of these options be enough for you? needs and those of your students at the same time. This is a question for you.
Commenting on the thread, one user wrote, “I wish people would stop sexualizing women’s boobs as well as LGBTQ+ people like me. Doesn’t matter how big women’s boobs are like they’re somehow offensive. The same with breastfeeding, it’s natural and beautiful, not sexual.”
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